Subject: Pros and Cons of most of the services in BKK
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Pros and Cons of most of the services in BKK

TLDR
1. Thermae
2. Nana Plaza
3. FiwFans/Telegram groups
4. Tinder, etc

Thermae

Pro
- you can see the girl first
- you can chat to see if you vibe with her (Line is best but you can hear each other)
- no bar fine
- less likely to be a pro (more GFE)
- price negotiable (they can see their competition)
- services negotiable
- all ages, shapes and sizes

Cons
- no standard service. You will have to talk about it. Could be awkward. But I like to see if a girl is comfortable with sex.
- you have to go and talk to her (some super cute girls will reject you, so be prepared)
- you will probably see a previous girl there. Could be awkward.
- Time constraint to pick a girl.

Nana Plaza

Pros
- Can see the girls and ALL of their body first.
- Can vibe a bit over drinks.
- A lot of hot, hard bodied girls.
- Gets you warmed up for the main event.
- If you are attractive you can have any girl(or boy...) there. They will literally throw themselves at you.
- Feet fetish heaven

Cons
- Price minimally negotiable.
- Some pushy mamasans and girls. Learn to look disinterested.
- Pay upfront (not sure about this but was in my case) and some others I talked to. I'm guessing the girl gets her cut after its been laundered.
- Difficult to discuss services in a loud club (but if she can DT a cucumber on stage then...)
- You might get targeted if you are half decent looking. Choose who you want not who wants you.
- If you are going to bar skip, it can get expensive(100 to 180 cheapest drinks).
- Spankys will push you out if you are just watching and buy a cheap drink.
- Cost is relative to you. If you have a hotel already then that will reduce cost. Possibly can negotiate if at the end of the night.
- Time constraint to pick a girl (but that is maybe normal)
- If you are going to take a girl, my advice is not to drink alcohol. Girls 'like' this with guys they like but like it even more with guys they don't (limp dick means they don't have to fuck).
- sometimes difficult to see how tall a girl is (if that bothers you).

Fiwfans/Smoochi

Pros
- pretty cheap (for 40m) but you will get what you pay for (ie. not much).
- lots of choice (about 140 girls in each area)
- if the girl is freelance then you could get a bargain.
- easy, can book appointments in minutes via Line mostly.
- some gems but finding them will be a chore(travel around the city, pissing off admins for rejecting, etc).

Cons
- cheap girls are mostly older (I guess upto 5 years which is a lifetime for women looks in this game).
- fake filtered photos (lots of pointy chins, white skin, etc)
- generous or fake reviews
- sometimes deal with 'admins' who won't pass required service to the girl.
- mostly far away areas that will take at least an hour to get to from central.
- barely functional and mechanical service (conveyor belt), depending on price/popularity.
- cryptic services that don't translate (anyone know what 'I don't accept things to do' means??)

Tinder, Thaifriendly, etc

Pros
- None, completely pointless

Cons
- Drowned in Ladyboys/transbullshit...
- ...or aunties looking for a saviour.
- Have to pay to talk($30 for ThaiFriendly)
- Most girls looking for long term (ie. dillusional) or will only match with hot guys (hoes).

• There are lots of Telegram groups. Add the Line contact in Fiwfans to get into them. Lots are updated every day. A whole range of prices.
• massagerepublic.com is ok, but largely hit and miss.
• Everything else (websites with photos of girls) is just old news.

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Reply #1 27niborder's post

Smooci just seemed to show me older women, 30+ so I'd say it was between Fiwfans/Tinder. These kind of girls I can get in France so I don't see older women when I'm in Asia. It's like eating fish and chips (as a brit) when on holiday
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Post at 28-5-2023 12:09  Profile P.M. 
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After another experience at Nana Plaza I want to add this.

- The girls there can see up to 4/5 guys a night if they bang them out quick. You are paying for sex, not for the time. Many girls (seems like) will fuck and flee, way short of the 2 hour short time you think you are getting. I think some girls don't like to be drilled 5 times a night (a bit ick to me tbh) and will honour the time. If you want the full time with the girl then tell her, if she says no then reject her. If she is anything like the girl I saw just before I left then she's seeing 4/5 guys a night, so make sure you know what you are getting.

Basically, ask if she does OWO. No girl would be insane enough to see 5 guys a night doing OWO. I hope anyway.

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I respectfully disagree about ThaiFriendly. I found several really nice freelancers there. Price range from 2000 to 3000.

It does take some time to work through it. I didn't pay for premium, just asked for Line.

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Reply #4 Johneastbay's post

I definitely will. Trying to figure proper format.

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Respectfully Disagree WRT ThaiFriendly

Classic case of differing objectives and COT ....  my view of ThaiFriendly   comments noted with ###

Tinder, Thaifriendly, etc

Pros
- None, completely pointless  ### Disagree
### - If patient, can find what you're looking for. WG's or 'normal' ladies needing $$ and okay with a casual relationship.  In my several years on TF, have met several ladies that have become good friends and enjoy a wonderful time together when I am visiting Thailand
### - Important to be honest, don't mislead or lead them on if they are looking long term and you're not

Cons

- Drowned in Ladyboys/transbullshit...  ### Simply uncheck Ladyboys in your search filter

- ...or aunties looking for a saviour.  ### so what?

- Have to pay to talk($30 for ThaiFriendly)  ### Really? $30 is a problem?

- Most girls looking for long term (ie. dillusional) or will only match with hot guys (hoes).  
      ### True, most are looking long term.  BUT almost always include that in their profile, so just skip. Why is long term 'dillusional'. Maybe for you, but NOT for many guys and gals on the site. The site claims over 1,363,631 members, and more than 16.000 online as I type.

• There are lots of Telegram groups. Add the Line contact in Fiwfans to get into them. Lots are updated every day. A whole range of prices.
• massagerepublic.com is ok, but largely hit and miss.
• Everything else (websites with photos of girls) is just old news.

### If you're looking for just ST, also include Sideline Thailand fro WG's. Just Google Thailand Sideline ...

[ Last edited by  brj75 at 29-5-2023 21:27 ]

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Reply #4 Johneastbay's post

How did you get their Line when it costs $30 to chat to anyone?

As soon as you click on a girl with a 'Popular' tag (all of them seems like) you get a pay wall.
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Reply #6 brj75's post

I didn't pay for ThaiFriendly and will probably give it a go. But I wasn't looking for LT and the girl I met at Thermae was just the ticket so I didn't look anywhere else.

So what? Well, I'm not looking to save anyone. Huge red flag to find a girl on an app that needs saving.

$30 is not a problem but the time it takes to go through all the girls is tedious. And they mostly look too old for me.

Finding a man/woman to spend the rest of your life with through an app is delusional IMO. But, I guess there is no other option otherwise how would they meet men? I just don't think it's a great way to meet people.

For Tinder, I just swipe right on everyone I'm not going to um and ah over every girl, only the girls who match with me (this is the standard way of using tinder) and it seems like just LBs that match with me. Maybe I am just unlucky or didn't give it enough time?

And it's ok to disagree, your needs are different to mine and that's cool. I much prefer talking to a girl directly, so Thermae was the best for me. I hate chatting via text Followed closely by N.Plaza.

TBC, I was looking to bang hot young girls, not to find a Thai bride. If I want to find a Thai bride I would never look in BKK.
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Sideline Thailand looks good, but seems to be the same as Fiwfans?
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Reply #7 27niborder's post

Correct, popular are behind paywall
. I just select regular girls and ask for Line or WhatsApp. It takes time, but I connected with several and met with few.
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What about the Freelancer bars? Hillary 2, as an example?

I found amazing girl from Laos there in Feb 2020...
https://forum.sex141.com/eforum/ ... 1195&highlight=

How is the scene there these days?

BTW - I'll be in BKK in Dec for 7 nights. Booked.
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Reply #11 hkpunter999's post

TBH, I didn't go in bars like Hillary as I was looking for girls with sexy bodies and young. From what I saw when walking past were older women which I'm not really into. But, maybe I will check them out another day just to double check. At the moment, I'm ok to pay a premium for NP girls to make sure they have fit bodies, etc. I don't like being surprised by tattoo's on belly fat, saggy boobs, etc.

Thursday/Friday/Saturday NP is great. If there is a girl you want to see then see her on M/T/Wed and she is more likely to spend longer with you. Be prepared to battle with the Chinese/Korean/Japanese guys on other days!
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