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Semen Retention

I came across this interesting concept that there is a difference between ejaculation and orgasm for men. And there is this hype over the internet about the benefits of not masturbating and not ejaculating. Apparently Steve Jobs used to practice it and Napoleon Hill wrote a chapter about sexual transmutation in his famous book.

The way you're supposed to hold off ejaculation and orgasm is by using your PC muscles.

I've never tried. But I would like to know if any of the members here practice this.

Would be great if anyone can share their thoughts if they've given this a try.

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drunkmunky   14-9-2020 23:47  Acceptance  +12   You gotta becareful doing this. There is a bunch of medical reviews on the impact to your prostate
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jeffzeke   11-9-2020 13:57  Acceptance  +20   interesting topic!
Vivante   29-8-2020 23:56  Acceptance  +1   Benefits of NOT masturbating? Isn't masturbating regularly supposed to reduce the risk of prostate cancer?
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Reply #1 SexNavigator's post

I think what you're referring to are the ideas originating in Mantak Chia's books: "Cultivating Male Sexual Energy" and "The Multi-Orgasmic Man". Just google "Mantak Chia ejaculation" and you'll find more information than you'd ever want to read (or watch, there are videos...)

The theory sounds great (I mean, who wouldn't want to have as many orgasms as one likes), but I have not tried training myself to do this.

I did do some exercises on strengthening the PC muscles to help develop better control over ejaculation, and I believe they did help.

[ Last edited by  porkchops at 30-8-2020 05:37 ]

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jeffzeke   11-9-2020 13:58  Acceptance  +20   very interesting!
SexNavigator   30-8-2020 23:43  Acceptance  +2   Yes. Something along those lines. I have read a few chapters of that book.
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Reply #2 porkchops's post

It does work, need to work on kegel exercises. Once screwed a bird for 3 hours and both had at least 6 orgasms. Came the 2nd orgasms but continued to fuck until both exhausted at 3am

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jeffzeke   11-9-2020 13:58  Acceptance  +20   amazing, thanks for sharing.
SexNavigator   30-8-2020 23:46  Acceptance  +2   Can you share more details about how you do it? And do you always practice this?
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Reply #3 robwong's post

It’s like retaining urine, you are squeezing your butt muscles to stop urinating. Takes 6 months of practise to get it right.
Most men find it difficult to stop on the point of shooting, you need to find a massage girl who will stop jerking you once you’ve reached climax but short of coming. It’s kinda hard to say in theory, needs real life practice
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There is a well worn...   expression in the UK:
"less wanking means more fucking".
Ever since I have stopped wanking, my erections are much stronger and I cum far more. The expression on
the WG's face every time is legendary.   They say "too much cum" afterwards.
WG's who swallow always smile afterwards.

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I have no foreskin, so twice was getting a blow job and realized that my glans was cut when I got home. I did not feel anything. Both times were non WG.
Lasting depends upon how tight her fanny is, I rarely have found fanny's tight. With a condom I lose so much sensitivity.
About 25-45 minutes.

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Curious to see if anyone has further pursued this adventure? From personal experience, I know that if you wank too much you do go limp status pretty easily before smashing, almost like having whisky dick... meanwhile if you stop masturbating for a while, you become hard as a rock (although you may cum faster hahah!)

I know this theory is quite valid for those who are into fitness and working out. Hell, I'll watch porn before going to the gym to get my testosterone and juices flowing, ready to destroy my gym session and push as much weight as possible. If you research MMA fighting as well, you can hear about Male MMA fighters refrain from having sex before their fight, meanwhile female fighters (like Ronda) would fuck as much as possible before their fight. If spiritually speaking, I feel as if women just drain all our life energy, so better to save your men for when the time is right ;)... or just fuck a lot, who cares lol

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Reply #2 porkchops's post

I did not read Mantak Chia’s book. For me, the idea is very similar to the Eastern cultures like Indian yoga, Chinese Taichi and Taoist Qigong. Indeed many Indian and Chinese masters have very good sex life.
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I haven't really practice to the point of not ejaculating at all but I have learned to control when I ejaculate.  You can read the two posts that I shared where I practiced.

I just recently came across Mantak Chia's videos and tried to digest what he was sharing in terms of the theories and techniques.

I have to say that after practicing what he was saying, I think it added another dimension when punting.

You have to really vet out which partner you are selecting to practice with.   Not all partners are willing and able to practice with you.

You can start by looking at the videos of talks by Mantak Chia, Solla Pizzuto, Charles Muir.      You can start with practicing yourself and then when you understand some basic elements then you can find a suitable partner.

I would assume that you can attend one of the workshops to get more hands on guidance from one of the masters and find out if their techniques would be beneficial to you.

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Here is an old post from "tshirt" around 2011 where "tshirt" shared some of his firsthand experiences.
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The above referenced "theory" does work. As mentioned, it requires a minimum
of 6 months to achieve the necessary muscle control of the PC muscle group.
Google "Kegel Exercises" and it will outline the procedure. Be aware this requires
dedication AND practice to work. Basic meditation will greatly assist in this quest.

Note: orgasm and ejaculation are seperate processes. Both can be controlled.

What you get is the ability "to remain on the razor's edge of orgasm" and be able
to hold this pleasure state for days until you are ready.

Lingham massage gives a very mild hint as to what your body is capable of feeling.
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sad story i have the same problem
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