Subject: Legal advise needed
twiceAweek
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Post at 26-5-2010 13:36  Profile P.M. 
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Legal advise needed

Would any bro with a good knowledge of the HK legal system be willing to
step forward and help us put together a thread on the rights of a punter and the
rights of a WG ?

If you are that person and you prefer to remain out of the forum limelight,
everything can be conducted via PM


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yvieamy   27-5-2010 01:10  Karma  +3   Excellent Idea
atomic3d   26-5-2010 15:08  Acceptance  +1   Good idea. Wish I could help.
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Post at 28-5-2010 02:23  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #1 twiceAweek's post

I got this link from my company;s legal guy when we were arguing bout pedophile and underage gals few months back.

He had a book with some criminal laws pertaining to sex workers regulation in HK.
But too bad he was no longer with the company.

The link here provide some east to understand scenerio, illustrations and FAQ.

http://www.ziteng.org.hk/info/info_e.html

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sexpert   28-5-2010 09:50  Karma  +5   Great site man, should be a sticky
sexpert   28-5-2010 09:50  Acceptance  +5   Great site man, should be a sticky
twiceAweek   28-5-2010 09:14  Karma  +1   Thanks




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Post at 28-5-2010 09:15  Profile P.M. 
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Interesting ... in the first section the artical has this point :

"Any sexual act within private premises (above age 18)"

notice its 18 !  but no mention why its 18

[ Last edited by  twiceAweek at 28-5-2010 10:25 ]
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Post at 28-5-2010 09:56  Profile P.M. 
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Fang Fang was waiting by the street when a middle-aged man passed by. Fang Fang smiled at him and said :  “Hi.”. The man replied likewise. Fang Fang then said “Are you bored ? Do you need company ?” The man asked “How much?”, to which Fang Fang said, “$300”. The man nodded in acceptance and proceeded to a motel with Fang Fang.

In the room, the man handed $300 to Fang Fang, Just as she was about to remove her clothes, someone suddenly knocked on the door. It was the police and the man was an undercover agent.

Fang Fang was charged and convicted of “soliciting for an immoral purpose” on the evidence of her acceptance of $300.

LOL, I was the guy but not middle aged.  If Fang Fang was the undercover in the same exact situation, would I be charged?
This is exactly what happened to me on Nathan and Dundas, hell she even followed me for 2 blocks shooting smiles my way.
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Post at 28-5-2010 11:42  Profile P.M. 
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For this website Action for Reach Out for sex workers, there is a number you can call to ask questions.  I guess you can call them for help....


Our services include outreach visits, a drop-in centre, a hotline, referrals for health or legal consultation and social services.


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Contact Us

Mailing Address: P.O.Box 98108, Tsim Sha Tsui Post Office, Kowloon

HOTLINE : (852)2770 1002

Tel : (852) 2770 1065
Fax : (852) 2770 1201
Email : contact@afro.org.hk



http://www.afro.org.hk/EN/info_decriminalisation.php

http://www.afro.org.hk/EN/info_21questions.php

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Post at 28-5-2010 11:57  Profile P.M. 
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by twiceAweek at 26-5-2010 13:36
Would any bro with a good knowledge of the HK legal system be willing to
step forward and help us put together a thread on the rights of a punter and the
rights of a WG ?

If you are that person and  ...

As per Twice's OP, he wants to have a definitive AND strictly LEGAL opinion on the state of play regarding our favorite hobby in Hong Kong.

I also want to find out what really are the actual pitfalls for us punters - not just some more discussions from the blind leading the blind.  There are already other threads for such discussions, speculation and comments.

So unless you are "with a good knowledge of the HK legal system "
(with appropriate apoliogies if I cause offense AND also for writing some more drivel on this important thread.  SORRY!!)
- you could perhaps not clog up this thread with more comments/discussions.

Thank you

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Post at 28-5-2010 20:34  Profile P.M. 
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by twiceAweek at 28-5-2010 09:15
Interesting ... in the first section the artical has this point :

"Any sexual act within private premises (above age 18)"

notice its 18 !  but no mention why its 18

oic, so above 18 is ok

between 16-18, u broke law of mongering

below 16, you broke the law of mongering as well as having sex with a minor
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Post at 29-5-2010 03:47  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #7 ymc's post

I don't think there's a law of mongering
Age of consent in HK is 16, whereas age of majority is 18.




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QUOTE:
Originally posted by CunningLinguist at 29-5-2010 03:47
I don't think there's a law of mongering
Age of consent in HK is 16, whereas age of majority is 18.

I am not sure about the name of this law. But TwiceAweek says you broke the law when you have sex with an under 18 girl in a 141 setting.

I suppose the girl also broke the 141 law as well because people under 18 can't establish a 141 joint.
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Reply #9 ymc's post

since everyone agrees prostitution is legal in HK, maybe that had set an age limit for prostitutes? and that is 18?

could that explain the discrepancy between 18 and the age of consent, which is 16?

from what i understand, age of consent is for consensual sex among 2 people, it does not apply in a prostitution setting. that's probably why the police want you to cooperate in the first place, to establish the fact that you were engaged in prostitution, then they go and check out the girl's age
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Post at 30-5-2010 02:11  Profile P.M. 
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Yeah, I think it is more likely that if the girl is between 16 and 18, she can't operate in an 141 setting legally even if she has work permit. But for us punters, we should still be over the hook if she is between 16 and 18.
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Post at 30-5-2010 04:41  Profile P.M. 
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by ymc at 30-5-2010 02:11
Yeah, I think it is more likely that if the girl is between 16 and 18, she can't operate in an 141 setting legally even if she has work permit. But for us punters, we should still be over the hook if  ...

Unless you have some relevant legal advice, can you delete your post and move this discussion to:

SEX141 eForum » Chat » Police crack down in HK last night....You can also start you own thead.

It's not clog up this thread with more comments/discussions. thks....

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Post at 31-5-2010 17:36  Profile P.M. 
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Hong Kong Laws

Chapter 200 of the Hong Kong Legal Code is the 'Crimes Ordinance'.

Part XII, i.e. Section 117 onwards, covers 'Sexual and Related Offences' - includes legal age of consent as 16.

Section 129 onwards covers Prostitution.

Section 141 covers allowing young persons to work in a brothel - minimum age is again 16.

You can download it all here - this is a HK government website.

http://www.legislation.gov.hk/bl ... enDocument&bt=0

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Reply #2 hunter's post

Actually the organisation regularly hands out leaflets to working girls. If you do walk-ups you might see that some girls have a sign which says "take off condom = rape". Apparently this was distributed by the Zi Teng organisation.
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