Subject: Price of WG in the past?
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Post at 11-5-2010 20:21  Profile P.M. 
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Price of WG in the past?

For the long terms punters have they noticed any upward or downward trends in the prices charged on the 141DB over the past 3 years or longer?

How has this correlated with the local and global economy?
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Post at 11-5-2010 20:32  Profile P.M. 
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Think the prices haven't gotten higher but maybe the quality has slipped somewhat. 15 years ago the prices were about the same but as China opened up, more and more supply hit HK. Same with Europe with Eastern Europeans and Russians being more accessible. If it wasn't for the failed Communist regimes we would not have so many goodies today. Next stop, North Korea.

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Post at 12-5-2010 07:59  Profile P.M. 
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This is a pretty interesting question, I'm glad someone brought it up. Are you saying prices were about the same as today without taking into account inflation? If so, the idea that things have actually become relatively cheaper is quite interesting...

With regards to the supply, before China/Russia opened up, was the primary population of wgs local? That seems fairly interesting, as it seems in the current climate, almost 90% are from the mainland.
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Reply #1 reggid's post

18 months ago, the standard PRC HG was between 600-700. prices have crept up, as now its between 700-800 (and even some at 900).

on the flip side though, due to competition, some of the more popular girls have even come down in price, so i guess it's fair to say prices have more or less stayed the same, although agents now start their girls out at 700-800 and readjust if business is not good
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Reply #4 DaBestHK's post

Think that generally, prices have remained constant because there is a constant supply of new girls coming from the mainland. It's a matter of supply and demand. Before China opened up, all the girls were from SE Asian countries, particularly, Thailand but now even in Thailand they's plenty of PRC girls. PRC WGs are in every corner of the world. China not only produces all the goods in the world but also supplies most of the WGs in the world.

Things are about to change. With inflation soaring in China and the RMB set to increase in value, this would cause a spike in prices in the not too distant future.
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Post at 12-5-2010 08:36  Profile P.M. 
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The price actually didn't change much for the last five years. However, you can see way more girls now become pricey hotel girls...
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Post at 12-5-2010 09:31  Profile P.M. 
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hmm are you guys sure about this ? I distinctly remember for Korean Girls only that it was about 800 - 1200 HKD range last year when i was in Hong Kong... now they are slightly less expensive than the Japanese girls although the latter has been same price.
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Post at 12-5-2010 11:15  Profile P.M. 
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For Koreans and Japanese, think the price is already inflated but then they come from wealthy, developed economies. For PRC girls, think prices will go up as they have to maintain their standard of living in China where inflation is now prevalent.
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Post at 12-5-2010 13:56  Profile P.M. 
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I don't think the girls are in a position to determine the price they charge. The agents are the one who set the prices taking into account on how much they wish to make.

The girls still make a lot more money in HK than they do back in China. For example in DG, each session is 2 hours long (vs 45mins in HK) and 3-4 customers a day is considered good (they can get upwards of 10 customers per day in HK). The girls make more per session in HK and as they can squeeze more sessions in per day. It still more profitable to come to HK. And as long as it's profitable to come to HK, they aren't going to demand a larger cut.
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Post at 12-5-2010 14:43  Profile P.M. 
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What kind of commission does an agent in HK take? 50%? Know in China the saunas take as much as 60% before other deductions.
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Post at 12-5-2010 17:11  Profile P.M. 
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when i first started punting in HK like 2 years ago the prices were in the 600-700 range for HG's in TST.  Now it feels like its mostly 800 but some at the 900.   I was hoping withthe crappy world economy, the prices would go down haha.
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Post at 13-5-2010 05:37  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #10 geoduck's post

Not sure about HK, but from what I hear, in Macau a girl gets roughly 500 out of 1588.
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Post at 13-5-2010 07:02  Profile P.M. 
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It's cheap in Hong Kong and other parts of Asia......with the exception of Japan. Check out the link:

http://www.miss-platinum.com/tokyo-escort/donation/

¥40,000 for 60 minutes = $3,340.50 HKD for 60 minutes (todays exchange rate). That's crazy expensive! But they are beautiful
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by geoduck at 12-5-2010 14:43
What kind of commission does an agent in HK take? 50%? Know in China the saunas take as much as 60% before other deductions.

not sure what commission the agent takes, because the agent has to split his take with the middleman who sources the girls from China. but generally the HGs get to keep more or less 40% of the published price, based on my conversations with different HGs from different agents. some agents give more, some agents give less (like for 700, some HGs get 300, some 280, etc).
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by DaBestHK at 13-5-2010 08:00
like for 700, some HGs get 300, some 280, etc

It may not sound like a lot, but that's 2-3 days salaries for these girls, if workng back home.  10 customers in a day means a month equivalent income.
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Reply #15 Thai-delight's post

It is a lot of money for them working in HK and Macau because of the turnover. In China, they will never get more than 4 customers a day at best because the duration of the session is much longer plus there is much more competition in number of girls and number of saunas operating.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by geoduck at 11-5-2010 20:32
Think the prices haven't gotten higher but maybe the quality has slipped somewhat. 15 years ago the prices were about the same but as China opened up, more and more supply hit HK. Same with Europe wit ...

What the 141DB has been around for 15 years? I thought that the WG took 50%. Looks pretty profitable to be a papasan......mmmhhh
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by DaBestHK at 13-5-2010 08:00


not sure what commission the agent takes, because the agent has to split his take with the middleman who sources the girls from China. but generally the HGs get to keep more or less 40% of the publi ...

The girls get charged by the middleman separately and works out to be 3K to 4K per week (roughly $50 per session). The middleman like bro DaBestHK mentioned sources the girls, arranges for transportation, visa matters etc. Some agents also charge the girls for the room cost. Girls who refer other girls also get a small referral fee.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by reggid at 13-5-2010 18:09


What the 141DB has been around for 15 years? I thought that the WG took 50%. Looks pretty profitable to be a papasan......mmmhhh

In those days they did not have 141DB but there were still girls working out of hotels and you'll call the papasan, very much the same as the DB. These days it just makes things easier with the DB. Back then you have to get numbers of different papasans from other mongering friends. The Century Hotel, Hyatt Regency (TST) and Holiday Inn Golden Mile was where I used to go.

[ Last edited by  geoduck at 13-5-2010 21:58 ]
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by geoduck at 13-5-2010 21:56


In those days they did not have 141DB but there were still girls working out of hotels and you'll call the papasan, very much the same as the DB. These days it just makes things easier with the DB.  ...

Well thank god for the internet makes it so much easier and discrete
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