Subject: How much $ do WGs make a year?
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Originally posted by xiaodidi at 10-1-2010 02:17
on a related note... how come more WGs dont migrate from china to HK / macau where the prices are higher? how difficult is it for a PRC WG to enter macau / HK?

The answer I think is - fairly difficult (for migration). Therefore you see tons of HG from Mainland China who are only here for a week ('7 day tourist visa' i believe?). Even for short stay there are restrictions...

In the last two or three years there were lots of pregnant women from Mainland China who went into labour while in Hong Kong and ended up having the child in Hong Kong and then dodging the hospital bill as they quickly left shortly after! So from that loophole the HKSAR government tightened up further!

Macau is SAR too, but can't comment on their restrictions.

On the other hand, going the opposite way, from Hong Kong/Macau to the Mainland it is much easier!


Back on the earnings, since the living costs in China are lower, you can live quite well with the earnings WGs get. I believe this is on the rise though, places like Shenzhen is far more expensive than say, 10-15 years ago.

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Reply #22 xiaodidi's post

"if we didnt have WGs, pervert freaks like venetiangirls would be RAPING and KILLING innocent ladys"

LMAO!!!
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Just wondering how could they survive when they're no longer attractive.

No longer hot, no more customer.

When they get use to have a lot of money and living in high standard.
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Reply #24 johancusco's post

Perfect opportunity for you ... if you ever visit these WG instead of just shagging them have a meaninful
conversation with them ... get to know them a bit better, take them out for breakfast/dinner and they
will reveal a lot to you - their own experiences and what happens in the industry in general !
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by xiaodidi at 10-1-2010 08:19


if we didnt have WGs, pervert freaks like venetiangirls would be RAPING and KILLING innocent ladys

I think your comment is out of line, you've only been in this forum for 11 days so you don't know other
bros in this forum well enough to make these types of comments !!!
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by johancusco at 10-1-2010 11:00
Just wondering how could they survive when they're no longer attractive.

No longer hot, no more customer.

When they get use to have a lot of money and living in high standard.

You'd be surprised.  There's a punter for every fetish, even old ladies and fatties.




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Reply #27 TheButler's post

As the market now is global by helping of the internet.

I should I agree with you bro.

But maybe their customer not as much as their young age.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by paka at 10-1-2010 05:04
TAX FREE all CASH MONEY ...

They might not pay tax to the government but I'm sure they have to make other pay-offs. Papasan, etc.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by johancusco at 10-1-2010 11:00
Just wondering how could they survive when they're no longer attractive.

No longer hot, no more customer.

When they get use to have a lot of money and living in high standard.

thats when they start looking for potential sugar daddys to latch onto... they will try to become the wife or ideally mistress of a rich business guy who will pay for their living and only NAIL them once every couple weeks.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by xiaodidi at 10-1-2010 18:46


thats when they start looking for potential sugar daddys to latch onto... they will try to become the wife or ideally mistress of a rich business guy who will pay for their living and only NAIL them ...

Naw, that's the gig of the smart young ones.  The dumb young ones just work for pimps, the smart ones find a SD.  The older girls become fetish providers and take it up the ass.

At least that's what I've run into. . .




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Some people make money for having fun - Sports, entertainment, hookers. I am jealous.
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Post at 11-1-2010 11:33  Profile P.M. 
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it seems less hypocritical

to let folks do what they want and get out of the way.  Let the market decide, and yes, have laws to protect people from being screwed (no pun intended, really).  I live in US which is full of hypocritical politicians who say one thing then do the other.
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Countries can't stop prostitution. The level of prostitution in Western countries is about the same although it's forbidden in most. Countries like the US and UK are very hypocritical about prostitution. They bring prostitutes in danger by marginalising them, encourage pimping, drugs and help spread deseases.

There are lots of girls that love sex and are happy hookers.

Governments should build safe clean brothels, also for female punters, with alarm buttons and doctors. They should also tax them as other professions.
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Reply #34 robman's post

Prostitution is one of the oldest industries that ever exist.
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Post at 12-1-2010 00:14  Profile P.M. 
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To answer the original question....

from reports here and elsewhere, it appears that the girls in Macau saunas are making about $400 a punt, less expenses (they have to pay the house for condoms, etc).  I would suspect that the average girl on an average day might punt 3, maybe 4.  More on the weekend, example and fewer on the week days.  So Let's sat $1500 net per day.  Unless they are taking pills to delay their monthly time, they are working 21-24 days a month (if they don't take time off) so say 35,000 per month.   Let's say they work 10 months a year, they get 350,000 gross tax free (for Americans, that would be < $50,000 a year).

To be honest with you, considering the work, they are fairly solidly underpaid.    However, for a mainland girl who is more likely to make 35,000 a year back home (if she is lucky), this sort of money is very good.  If she keeps her Macau expenses down, and keeps a good chunk of the money, and works 4 or 5 years, she can be a fairly well off person in many parts of China.  Well invested, a million RMB would certainly be a life changer.

The real disappointing fact is that the girls make such a small amount of the overall door fees.   The girls are getting less than 1/4 of the door, and still less than 50% of a "second punt" fee.

Just to put this in perspective:  I know a couple of chinese mainland girls in their 30s who came to Canada and worked in the sexy massage business here.   Doing only massage, HJ, and allowing some fondling and licking, these girls are making really good money.  In Toronto, girls are getting anywhere between $40 and $80 "tip" per 30 minutes, plus often an additonal $10 from the door fee, and they are often seeing 5 or 6 clients per day.  So $300-$500 per day isn't out of the question, which would be anywhere from $2000-3500 hk a day... and oh yeah, many of these girls work right through that time of the month because they don't give full access to the kitty!   Even working 20 days a month, they are taking $40,000 to $70,000 hk a month.   One of the girls, having done this work for more than 10 years, is a multi-millionaire canadian, putting her net worth at something like 10-15 million HK.  

Working in a Macau sauna isn't exactly the way to get incredibly rich in our terms, but certainly in mainland terms (or for poorer countries like vietnam or thailand) it is certainly much better than they would get otherwise.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by CanuckGuy at 12-1-2010 00:14
Even working 20 days a month, they are taking $40,000 to $70,000 hk a month.   One of the girls, having done this work for more than 10 years, is a multi-millionaire canadian, putting her net worth at something like 10-15 million HK...

Ummm...  Do the math...  She must live on nothing and be a damn good investor to boot!

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Reply #13 xiaodidi's post

that is probably why they are in those particular SNs.  I would imagine it is similar to being discovered as a top model.  The most beautiful ladies may never make it in the modeling industry, unless they are lucky enough to be discovered by someone with the connection of the HK/Macau saunas.  

I would just love to be one of the so-called "pickers".  I would love to search the world and china for the next top HK/Macau Sauna sensation.
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Here are a couple of isolated data points...

When I was in the US, I had a friend who was for a while the #1 top-rated escort on BigDoggie.  She was a really sweet woman (and still is) and an incredible GFE.  She liked overnights and would do 3-4/week, including lots of travel.  She told me that she netted about US$180K/year.  I met her in 1998, when she was 23.  She took about five years off, after she married a client.  But several years ago she went back into the business after she divorced.  At best, she'll have 10-15 good working years.  Total it up, that's not bad money, but hardly enough to get rich on...

I just spent the night with a friend in Bangkok.  She recently retired (at 40) from being a bar girl.  Despite being 40, she has a beautiful, young-looking face and a positively slamming body (with some very well-done store-bought tits).  She says that she is routinely mistaken for being younger than her 26-year-old sister.  In addition to having taking care of herself, she's one smart woman.  She left school at 15 to help support her family.  She worked in a factory in BKK for 8 years before turing to the bar life.  She supports her parents and put her sister through college.  She doesn't live extravagantly and socked away most of her money.  She has a good-sized house in her home town in Issan, with a lot of land and a lake.  She's got almost $2 million baht (US$60K) in the bank... not a fortune, but good money in Thailand.  She's now looking for a bar she can buy and run...

Have fun, CGP
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Reply #38 joboo8's post

Jessie from Fuji 2 years ago now got her big break and into full time modelling.




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Reply #35 CanuckGuy's post

This is anecdotal but a Lisboa girl told me a really popular girl recently made HK$730,000 in a month nett (after deducting all expenses). Apparently she was a tall and hot Dongbei girl who wore a red cheongsam, so some of you may have seen her or know who she is (she was at the Lisboa until Nov 09).
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