Subject: PAY FIRST
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PAY FIRST

I havent been to walkup for almost 4 months.

funny sign on 141 corridor

PAY FIRST BEFORE SEX
REMOVE CONDOM = RAPE

The 2nd sentence is intriguing, the first one i dont know if its ok

Normally after you already paid, the service became bad.  They want you out of the door as fast as possible.
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Well those signs are everyone.

I think those signs are made by ZiTeng, an organisation for WGs, so nothing strange about those signs.

Not exactly sure what is so intriguing as to the 2nd sentence.

As to the first sentence, I've rarely been asked to pay first. Apparently, the problem is more pervalent with drunks, when they would refuse to pay after sex .... and because they are so drunk they might not even know whether they have money to pay at all!
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Reply #1 hkboy141's post

Probably experienced punters who dont have money to pay afterwards.. what if you 'show them the money' first? But then pay afterwards.


2nd point is certainly bizzare. So basically you have to walk out the room with a cum stained 'dom on you
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Reply #2 orsum's post

yes I've seen those signs and I believe an organization's distributing them !
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I been to one which had the sign. But they never ask for the money first.

I think they may jsut decide on the customer and decide if they would ask for
the money up front.
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Sounds like the Americanized Irish Portugeese, details picker just showed up at HK to try an ruin the mood.  

I treat the sign as this is a safe business and no std's please.
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pay first

well never pay first.
many things can happen.
it could be not only bad sirvice, but, also running away, requestiing paying again, sleeping without notice(overnight) and so on.

but, they could request because there are guys who comes without enought money.
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i actually think them enforcing condom use is a good thing.  makes me feel safer that they care about hygine.  

the pay first thing is debatable.  tough call since they are just trying to protect themselves against people who don't have enough money.  better pay first than having them have some sort of bouncer to enforce.
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Reply #8 willxi's post

Kudos to you bro willxi. I too am big believer in safety first. Not to be a party pooper, but bareback anything with a WG who's services thousands of men before you is just asking for trouble.
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There can't be bro's who insist on BB with a WG, is there?  Seriously?  
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Reply #3 aaa888's post

Probably a bad translation for the second one.


I can see it being better for the WG's as some may have had bad experiences with jerk customers. I've never paid first in Hong Kong, all the girls seemed fine with that. In North America I always pay first, usually because I know I'm going to get a good service and just so it's out of the way.
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Reply #7 andjtrea's post

Well unless you are going to some licensed place with rules. For example, strip clubs have an entry fee - pay first at the door etc. If it's a trusted establishment or agent etc, then I guess theres no harm to pay first. It's just the same as if you order a burger, you pay first.

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Originally posted by Fifa at 7-7-2010 08:55
Well unless you are going to some licensed place with rules. For example, strip clubs have an entry fee - pay first at the door etc. If it's a trusted establishment or agent etc, then I guess theres n ...

the OP is talking about HK 141 walk-ups, not strip clubs or burger joints. please stay on topic
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by aaa888 at 3-7-2010 18:10
2nd point is certainly bizzare. So basically you have to walk out the room with a cum stained 'dom on you

REMOVE CONDOM = RAPE

it just means.. no bareback is allowed..
insisting on barebare = rape.
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Reply #14 kaka's post

Indeed. To elaborate on bro kaka, you can actually be prosecuted for having unconsentual sex, or rape, if you remove the condom.

I just think, why the fuck is that a rule? I thought it would be god given common sense. Unfortunately, it's not - I read a report in the HK section where a girl offered BB sex and the punter didnt even complain to the mamasan   This kind of stuff freaks me out from coming to HK - whats the point if my life is at risk even if I follow all the "rules"?

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QUOTE:
Originally posted by Fifa at 8-7-2010 10:45
Indeed. To elaborate on bro kaka, you can actually be prosecuted for having unconsentual sex, or rape, if you remove the condom.


prosecuted in which geography? HK? please clarify

Indeed. To elaborate on bro kaka, you can actually be prosecuted for having unconsentual sex, or rape, if you remove the condom.

QUOTE:
... I read a report in the HK section where a girl offered BB sex and the punter didnt even complain to the mamasan   This kind of stuff freaks me out from coming to HK - whats the point if my life is at risk even if I follow all the "rules"?

very fickle minded aint ya? you just said you wanna be in HK because it's fun less than 4 hours ago... change of mind?
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by DaBestHK at 8-7-2010 10:59


prosecuted in which geography? HK? please clarify

Indeed. To elaborate on bro kaka, you can actually be prosecuted for having unconsentual sex, or rape, if you remove the condom.



very fickle min ...

Not at all. But doesnt unsafe sex make any rational person feel insecure? Geeeesus.
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Originally posted by Fifa at 8-7-2010 11:02


Not at all. But doesnt unsafe sex make any rational person feel insecure? Geeeesus.

and who are you to judge who's rational or not? everyone has their own ways and their own limits. you do things your way and they do things their way. it may be irrational for you but may be perfectly ok for others.
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and who are you to judge who's rational or not? everyone has their own ways and their own limits. you do things your way and they do things their way. it may be irrational for you but may be perfect ...

Indeed, what you just said is very true. However, I am speaking solely from my point of view - as you are speaking form your own point of view. We are merely using the right of having an opinion on things which we are duly expressing through these messages. Fun, aint it?
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I wouldnt pay first and the one time they asked me to do it i said no thanks and walked out

She tried to argue with me for about 10 mins but i wasnt having any of it - as if she was going
to give me good service with that kind of tone of voice and attitude!
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