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[Toronto][Canada] - Elva. Wechat Girl

So... Here's a weird one.... I'm posting this now as it's an ongoing situation and I've not yet actually seen this girl...
Using the 'People Nearby' function on Wechat, I started talking to a few girls.
The ones that ended up chatting with me, within 5-6 messages, would tell me that they are a working girl, and provide me with details of their services (costs / services / rough location).
This one girl, Elva, she starts talking to me... she doesn't mention it. She's asked a couple times if I can send her a few dollars via Wechat because she's playing this mobile game, but as I do not have a Wechat wallet account, I've never given her a dime.
We're getting to know one another, she said she lives with her brother and sister-in-law, who are really strict, and so she doesn't get out much.
After a MONTH of chatting, she randomly tells me she's now part-timing as a working girl. Her rates are quite low ($100/2hr), and I'd been chatting with her for a month, so I figure, heck.... why not.

So last week, I have a bit of time before meeting some people for dinner, so I make plans to see her.
She asks to meet at a 7/11 and asks me to buy an iTunes card for payment. She says that this is for first time only and that next time can be cash. She asks me to send her a photo of the code in the back for verification, she has to send it to 'her boss'... and asked me to give her the card after we finish our rendezvous so that she can use it to claim it from her boss. It's a bit fishy... but it's $100... so ok... I'll bite...
Then she says that she's waiting for her boss to call me to verify that I'm not a cop. I wait and I wait , and she asks a few times if he's called. After a while, she says her boss is busy and can't make the call and that I should pay $500 deposit to prove I'm not a cop.
My Spockian eyebrow starts to raise.... At this point, I've been standing around for about an hour, and I actually need to go to my dinner soon, so I say no. If she doesn't show up, I'll have given a gift to her boss, and if she does show up, she doesn't have to do anything and I'll just GIVE her the d*mned card. I'm not pissed, just need to get going.
She says she can't come see me unless I pay the deposit.
I tell her, too bad... I'm leaving then.
She apologizes left right and centre, and says ok... but implores me to KEEP the card to give to her next time and that she'll make it up to me next time. In my head, I'm like whatever.

The next day, she messages me again, asking me if I've kept the card. Tells me to keep it for when we meet so that she can claim her money, and that I won't have to pay again for HER services since we didn't meet last time. But she said her boss is adamant that I provide the $500 deposit, that she PROMISES and SWEARS up and down that it will be returned to me. I tell her that it's one thing to lose $100, it's another entirely to be scammed for $500.

She says... let's make plans... she'll pay $150 of the deposit, so my deposit will only be $350 (plus the iTunes card I still have).....

I've been pushing it off, but we still chat every day. She messages me first thing in the morning, chats with me during the day between classes (according to her), and a bit in the evening also.

So.... I'm like 50/50 on this one.

It SOUNDS like a scam.... but..... it's a hell of a long game for a few hundred bucks isn't it? She seems like a sweet girl... aside from her all of a sudden becoming a WG, everything else has been consistent. Doesn't sound like she's really making anything up... Some of y'all that are using the SD/SB sites are paying $500 for a rendezvous... and if this IS a scam... I'd be out $450. So it's not like it's ridiculous. Of course... I don't want to be scammed... but again... It's a hell of a long game for a few hundred no?

So.... what do y'all think? Scam? Maybe? Go through with it? Thoughts, insights, appreciated. Thanks

Here are a couple of photos she's sent me for regs.


~UD


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bittersweet   14-5-2019 14:33  Acceptance  +1   Thanks for sharing.
Ssmfd3srx7   1-3-2019 16:20  Acceptance  +1   Scam
adrenal   4-12-2018 18:26  Karma  +6   SCAM
JJJ37   30-11-2018 00:47  Karma  +8   
pushkin13   26-11-2018 18:36  Acceptance  +3   Scam. Move on. Thanks for the report.
quartz13579   26-11-2018 14:45  Karma  +5   It's a scam, move on bud.
spahunters101   25-11-2018 10:51  Karma  +4   toronto got better stuff to play than this lol
xiaodidi   24-11-2018 18:44  Karma  +4   Favorable
batman108   23-11-2018 11:21  Karma  +3   even stevie wonder can see its a SCAM!!! you can fish her longer and play with her or him...good luck
wolfy187   22-11-2018 13:42  Acceptance  +5   scam... they do this in asia a lot...just block
livinginhk   22-11-2018 10:03  Karma  +2   Scam
theworm   22-11-2018 09:53  Karma  +5   it's a lot of work to get a few hundred, don't know your financial situation, but if you can afford it, go for it, or ...
jeffzeke   22-11-2018 05:23  Karma  +10   she looks hot, but this sounds like a scam.
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@enipo.... yeah. I've heard of that scam too.... which is why my Spockian eyebrow has been raising a lot that it's getting rather sore. Odd thing is that even after I didn't REALLY fall for it, she's still messaging me just to chat. Most of the scam girls are pretty obvious. Like I said... they chat for a couple of minutes and bring up their services right away. This one doesn't fit the regular MO... maybe she's new to the game... maybe it's one of the rare ones that isn't a scammer, or maybe she realises lots of people know this scam, so playing the patient game... but again... I've been chatting with her for like 2 months now... and it's been pretty consistent. Spockian eyebrow isn't dropping, but it's certainly not the same as the others I've encountered.

Thanks for the feedback / input. I'm not likely to go thru with it.... but there is a 1% chance I might simply out of curiosity. lol.... probably not tho. haha

~UD

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Freelancer   22-11-2018 19:46  Acceptance  +1   None of the scammers are actually girls. Also, $100 CAD or $100 HKD? Big difference there
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@jeffzeke.... yeah... the moment she asked me to buy an iTunes card, red flags started going off in my head. Instead of waiting in the convenience store, I went next door to the coffee shop instead... it has a window that looks into the convenience store... I watched in case a van full of thugs wanted to haul me away... but but but..... she really doesn't SOUND like the rest of the scammers... which has me confused. lol..... I'll see how long I can JUST chat with her without meeting her... $100 to chat with a cute girl for a few months.... not money WELL spent... but at least not TOTALLY wasted. lol....


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dragon.man   29-11-2018 07:01  Karma  +3   More than likely wasn’t a girl. Paying with iTunes card is definitely a red flag.
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Reply #4 UncleDad's post

It is a scam.
They continue being friendly, getting your confidence up and doubts down, until you relent.
The photo is probably not real either
Tell her youll give her 1,000 if she shows up at 7/11.
Then park yourself at the nearby coffee shop and see if she turns up
Then, time for you text her and say you have been held up by a traffic cop for speeding

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UncleDad   22-11-2018 10:20  Karma  +10   LMAO.... Great idea!
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@freelancer..... CAD mate.
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Reply #6 UncleDad's post

Yeah, if you have the time then play along.  Send her a digit, one at a time, of the iTunes card and tell her your Little Boss calls the shots and needs Proof of Life. Send a picture with newsprint date.




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So here's an update... We've still been chatting, i made it quite clear that I'm not giving any additional "deposit" funds... But if she wants that itunes card.... She can meet me for coffee (public space, see if she's an acutual 'she'). She's agreed. Now it's just seeing when i have time..... It ain't easy gettin away from the trailer park ya know. Lol

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Freelancer   26-11-2018 04:33  Acceptance  +1   This is such a bad idea. Just walk away dude.
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This one of the reasons I never trust the "Nearby Function" there are so many scammers pretending to be females or cops on the other end of the screen just jerking you around or trying to find something on you.  

My friend got caught in one of these things some dude was acting like a hot female trying to get him to meet and was sending him all kinds of photos of "her" all to get my friend to commit.  Then my friend added her as a friend and through the public profile found out he has married and all the jazz and was black mailing him for money saying if you don't do it i'll tell everybody.  

Good call ud on the public space so if it isn't who they say they are you can still blend into the crowd and disappear.
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Reply #8 UncleDad's post

Tell her to show up in the gay area of toronto, church and charles
See what her reaction is
Tell her you,ll be wearing a rainbow coloured t shirt

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@tonkachi.... I chose a public place so that this person can't do anything to me physically without witnesses around. I'm not worried about verbal threats. I've given them nothing tangible to hold against me. And even if they do, what, they're gonna run out to bumblef*ck nowhere to rough up the trailer park? I'd like to see'em try. I'll unleash the rednecks on'em! lmao

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Like a lot of people said, sounds like a bad idea
BUT, this is interesting read so I kind of want to see how this pans out.

Any updates yet?
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Reply #12 emm7's post

Hope I am wrong but this is going to be very predictable.  You are going to wait at a public coffee shop and after half an hour or so "she" will text you saying she will be late or can not make it.  As mentioned earlier, get a proof of life shot to make sure it is indeed the same girl in the pic.

One of my buddies had time to kill as he worked nearby for this exact iTunes scam.  He waited in front of a chain pharmacy for a no show during his lunch time and has heard all the excuses.




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Reply #13 bohica's post

Up the offer and see what happens.

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bohica   4-12-2018 23:59  Acceptance  +5   Show her a stack of iTunes cards and see how fast see responds. LOL!!!
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@emm7....
We're still talking...but haven't had time to make plans yet.... The trailer park gets busy ya know! haha...

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do you enjoy this? I'm not saying to be difficult.  I'm just thinking maybe there is even more fun things to do rather than waiting on an imaginary girl who is really some dude in/from China

talk a walk outside.
visit a HG
browse SA
look at PH

I'm just thinking that whoever you are chatting has more time to play out this scenario than you

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UncleDad   6-12-2018 03:38  Karma  +1   lol
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Keep chatting with them and keep them busy so that don't have time to get another one
Like the Nigerian oil scheme, keep them busy and raise their hopes.

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UncleDad   6-12-2018 03:38  Karma  +1   Haven't met up yet, but oddly, still chatting. She's telling me about her exbf now....
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Any update on this? Hahah I’m very curious... this screams scam to me but who knows... I wouldn’t have gave them the time of day.

Being said, I heard Toronto has a lot of quality quality agencies like BH/MW

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Since there seems to be some continued interest... This Elva girl and I have still been chatting. She "says" that she's getting ready for exams, so she would prefer if we could meet for coffee after the exams. I'm with all of you. It smells SOOOOOOO much like a scam.... and yet, her story has been consistent, she's not made any attempt to get more money out of me, and she SOUNDS like she's looking forward to meeting for a coffee as opposed to gettin' down for a romp in the sack.

I'm being careful... and no way I'm going to shell out any additional money until I can verify everything.
I'm out $100 for that iTunes card... ok... but if that's all it's gonna cost me to get to the bottom of this, it's $100 for an extended mystery.... haha. I'll keep y'all posted.

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Reply #19 UncleDad's post

Well, maybe the handler knows the ropes.
It is exam time at Universities, and it convinces one that "she" is speaking the truth.
However, I would tell her she will get the iTunes Card at the coffee shop.
Expensive $100 coffee if she turns up.
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