Subject: Usernames, in search engine results?
liveabroad9
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Usernames, in search engine results?

So, something on the internet triggered me to search my username, which brought up this site, and a list of topics related to my user.

I can't speak for anyone else, but this bothers me. I'd like to think this forum were more private (not that anything online actually is), to those who are not explicitly looking.

Is there anything that can be done about google scouring our forum?

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obe   2-12-2017 09:24  Acceptance  +10   Admin is more worried about page views for adverts. See comments below.
porkchops   1-12-2017 13:20  Acceptance  +5   Agree, I put RA20 at least, and sometimes more on my reports.
batman108   1-12-2017 12:45  Acceptance  +2   Awesome and thanks
jake.houston   1-12-2017 11:43  Acceptance  +1   This is accurate. I use a semi-generic name on all sites. It blends and stays well below the top of the search results.
Mister   30-11-2017 19:58  Acceptance  +2   You used to need to login to see the contents, but last year the owners opened up the forum. Put RA on all your threads
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Reply #1 liveabroad9's post

This forum used to be a closed society where only members can see details and hence there was an element of trust.

Then admin decided to open it up to be able to be searched by Google so the annoying adverts on every thread could reach a greater audience.

There was no consultation to members who posted their reports thinking their reports were secure. After an uproar from members all old reports were moved to the archive section which is not searchable by search engines.

Make sure your thread titles are not to detailed. I had a report where the thread title was the bar name, city and girls name. Turns out some guy found it by doing a search on the girl. Guess he found out his potential new girlfriend wasn't a choir girl.

I actually think this is the main reason the forum isn't as busy now as there is little security to our posts. I am sure most of us are married or have a girlfriend and this hobby is secret.

Always put an RA on your post so only member can read it.

Obe

[ Last edited by  obe at 2-12-2017 09:15 ]

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liveabroad9   2-12-2017 16:42  Acceptance  +3   Yeah, I'm with you. Even being a 'newer' member, I don't like how it feels.
Mister   2-12-2017 11:43  Acceptance  +5   Quite so.
hkpunter999   2-12-2017 09:20  Acceptance  +6   
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Reply #2 obe's post

My handle has stayed the same on virtually all porn/mongering/pick-up sites all the way back to the early days of the internet and adultfreindfinder etc but it has always been a closely guarded secret to any SO or gf (as well as normal mates who only do a bit of ad hoc punting) as internet searches have always have a concern.  When I started SA activity (on a different site) about 6 or 7 years ago I started using a different handle which I now keep only for those sort of sites.

If I do a general search on aurufc, nothing comes up but if I add sex141 to the search this report comes up:

http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/viewthread.php?tid=62230

If I just add 141 a couple more appear which is all a bit wierd - I am not particularly concerned but it is annoying that after a good 15 years of online nonsense under the same handle, it takes this site less than a year for it to start appearing

Guess we are slightly protected by how badly the site is structured but if you have a SO from HK, and a lot if not all know about the existence of 141, then them guessing or finding out your handle could lead to finding reports and linking them to your movements by dates and/or locations if you travel........

Question to the bros:  what is a reasonable RA to put on all reports - 10? 20?

[ Last edited by  aurufc at 2-12-2017 11:58 ]

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liveabroad9   2-12-2017 16:44  Acceptance  +3   Don't we all hate the one-liners?
Mister   2-12-2017 13:16  Acceptance  +2   10 shuts out the unregistered lurkers; 20 shuts out the Noobies, which may be helpful if you hate one-liners
obe   2-12-2017 13:12  Acceptance  +1   I do RA20 as a minimum
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I wasn't aware the forum was viewable by unregistered guess until quite recently.

A concern of mine also, that's why 'i now put more reports on  the restricted access forum (sensitive whereabouts)  and RA all other reports in common forum.

That plus P.Ms from inactive members i don't reply to anymore.

Also i use my nickname only in that forum.

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liveabroad9   3-12-2017 12:59  Acceptance  +3   Not cool that we all have to be more careful on account of *admin.
Mister   2-12-2017 23:32  Acceptance  +3   Good ideas all




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QUOTE:
Originally posted by blast77 at 2-12-2017 18:26
Mister          2-12-2017 13:16          Acceptance          +2          10 shuts out the unregistered lurkers; 20 shuts out the Noobies, which may be helpful if you hate one-liners
obe          2-12-2017 13:12          Acceptance          +1          I do RA20 as a minimum.

Senior members and mods shout up if I am being too sensitive but when I get out of my current lull/laziness (which is partly due to the amount of time I am spending on SA work) and start catching up on my backlog of reports I am going to put RA20 on walk ups, RA 30 on freelancers and all SA reports/insights in Restricted Access.

Rest of world I may do at RA10 as this is useful to members who travel like me.

Too harsh or counter productive then senior members please let me know

Au

Edit: and just realised that if you rate/reply/quote on a report with no RA you still can be found on Google search - may be wrong but it that true?  If so then WTF

[ Last edited by  aurufc at 3-12-2017 01:28 ]

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obe   3-12-2017 08:26  Acceptance  +5   That seems fine
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Reply #5 aurufc's post

Is it possible to request deletion of all non-RA reports? I'll be putting 20 on all mine from now but would like to remove those which can turn up in searches.

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obe   3-12-2017 08:27  Acceptance  +5   Maybe ask the mods to move those reports to the restricted section?
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Reply #5 aurufc's post

The Reports sections (except Restricted and HK Sauna) have had RA0 on them for more than 18 months. You only noticed now?
Only mods can edit your old reports to add RA. You could ask a mod, although it is time consuming and ultimately depends on his availability. Should do it through PM.

scufferhk: Reports are NEVER deleted. Admin's orders. Are you referring to all non-RA reports, or just yours? If we moved/deleted all non-RA reports (even the more recent ones), there would be no point in having the reports sections and it goes against what admin wants - to have reports that are searchable. Also, if you are talking about all reports, wouldn't it be unfair to delete reports that people have worked hard creating? Besides, once a report is moved to Archives, people can only give Acceptance points so it affects their chance to climb the ranks. Not good for those who have recently created reports. My biggest beef was that newbies could not add RA10 to their reports. Still the case? Having that option would be good, but that request was denied.

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aurufc   4-12-2017 14:19  Acceptance  +5   The bit I didn't realise was 0 RA meant unregistered users could find via Google search. Maybe needs to go in the guid ...
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The whole concept of the site being open to public, seems anti-productive for various reasons.

Some have been stated:
- Fear of being seen, causing members to think twice about posting.
- If encounter is transcribed, one might be more inclined to leave out good details.

Second point:
- Causes the community itself to essentially self destruct, over long term.
- Posts which are useful to us, are useful to those looking to stop our fun.
- Who is to know if our posting didn't play into the recent Shanghai fiasco?

Third
- 'Newbies' posting all these one liners
- This is a diverse topic, but I see it fair to state, in General:
   less restriction means more un-invested users, asking for handouts.

[ Last edited by  liveabroad9 at 3-12-2017 13:07 ]

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blast77   3-12-2017 14:30  Acceptance  +5   Agree
Mister   3-12-2017 14:10  Acceptance  +5   Yes, it's harmful and demoralising to the very folks who make the forum useful. This used to be a safe haven
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I love spending time on this forum, but I spend lesser time than I could spare only because there is only so much activity here. I think we all agree we would like to see some more (meaningful) activity here. We have had some veterans go quiet without seeing new blood step up. So we need to find ways to make the newbies more active and reward them for their activity. The RA system worked well as an incentive for me, but looks like it is not incentive enough for many who are lurking around for years. Maybe we are offering too much for free at the moment?

Maybe all pics and even links to the db should be RAed? Say all pics go RA 30 min and the links have RA 20? Idea is to have a ladder to climb where every step opens up new content. Or maybe the newbies get to see reports but only after a week? Anything that can incentive them to contribute rather than lurk.  

I understand the concern around the posts being open to public, but if you like this forum and want it to thrive I think the reports themselves need to be visible to the larger public.

I personally use this handle only here and try to use always use a VPN to connect to the forum and browser is always in 'incognito' mode. That reduces the risks I am subject to with my reports being public to an acceptable level.

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liveabroad9   5-12-2017 13:21  Acceptance  +3   Agree with Mister; All I'm suggesting is making people sign up, and have an account before they can see anything.
Mister   5-12-2017 08:54  Acceptance  +4   “offering too much for free“ - Nail on head. Folks will put RA on reports, which will defeat purpose of opening up
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Continuing...

In regards to what you're saying...
I would support the following concepts; BUT, this is a side conversation to the fact that I think the forum itself should be shaded from the outside world.

- replying to threads not allowed for newbies; only ratings.
(perhaps limiting replies, allowing long replies over ### of words, but this is likely not possible to specify in the forum code).
- replying not allowed for newbies for set time doesn't really make sense to me, because if they really want in and do post a few things, they are still under a time-restriction, which isn't fair.

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p0ison   5-12-2017 17:01  Acceptance  +3   Thx
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Realize my earlier post was a bit all over the place. The points I was trying to make were:

1) the forum being open and figuring prominently in search results probably helps get new members, which is a step in the right direction. Without this we may soon not have the critical mass required and may just die out

2) we do not have enough incentives for those new visitors to register or when they do register for them to contribute. The current karma based membership levels and the privileges for each levels may need a rejig? Suggestions I made in the last post were my random thoughts on what could be done

3) pt 1, could expose some of our contributing members to some additional risk, but that can be minimised with some precautions

Between my idea was not to prevent newbies from replying to threads for a set time, but to prevent them from viewing the thread for a set amount of time. That gives them access to the reports but the SP may not be available anymore in many cases, so they have an incentive to climb up the ranks.

PS: This is not my thread, but maybe a RA20 is appropriate since we are discussing newbies?

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liveabroad9   8-12-2017 15:30  Acceptance  +3   Nah... if newbies see this, they'll finally understand what it's all about.
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yes i agree with you brother
this is a really important issue especially for some brother with family.
Hope admin can do something on this
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