Subject: Hawaii Spa – Joey : reputation well earned
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Hawaii Spa – Joey : reputation well earned

Date & Time of Session:  17th June 2017, evening
Link: http://go141.com/en/A46320-WC-SPA-HawaiiSpa.html  
Nationality & Language: Chinese, no english  
Age: looks late 20s
Face:  3/5   
Body:  3.5/5 (nice long legs)
Skill: 3/5   
Service: 5/5   
GFE: 4/5  
Price:  700  

After reading all the great reports about Hawaii and Joey, I was curious to give her a try. Booking on wechat was a breeze and she was waiting for me when I got there.  

Shower alone, but she takes great care of you the moment you step out. The massage wasn't anything great, but I wasn't really bothered about it either. Lots of DFK and laughs even before the flip. Post the flip, even more DFK and she let me undress her fully. She gave an excellent HJ while I had my fill of tit suck, fingering and DATY. Went on for a while before I

On the downside, when I was done and got into the shower, I noticed that she just washed her hands before putting on her clothes. All that DATY and she just didn't bother to wash her ls!

Anyway overall great experience, amazing service. Joey has a splendid attitude that leaves you really happy.  

Repeat: maybe after a while, but def no DATY.

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Mister   20-6-2017 08:52  Karma  +4   Thanks. How did whe ask for the $700?
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Reply #1 p0ison's post

Poison thanks for the post. Hawaii seems to be the place right now. Quite a few girls worth punting on based on their WeChat and DB page. Re hygiene, yes quite concerning.... I would be concerned where a girl I've fingered and lapped away didn't clean up there after, but then again I know many walk up saunas also have a separate cubicle somewhere at the back of their establishment where the girls may shower. Hope that was the case.....
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Was just down at hawaii yesterday. Ive never tried Joey but i am pretty sure if they didn't shower there and then, most likely joey didn't wash it at all. after the reno i think all but the middle room have showers in them. so unless u were in the small middle room. There is a public shower room in the middle of the living room but ive never seen any girls use that.
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For what it's worth, she did use the other bathroom whilst I was taking my second shower.

I wasn't there to check what part she washed though...
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Reply #3 david_r1's post

In my experience, it seems to vary with the girl. Never DATY'd a spa girl, but they usually don't bother to clean up down there after some fingering of the clit. A few, however, have shucked off their panties and washed themselves in the shower at the end of the session.
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Reply #4 Tarasse's post

I'm always hesitant to DATY and even FK some of the hotel and sauana girls. There's so much ....throughout .... that it freaks me out. Maybe that's why I tend to like takeout at KTV's. At least there's a decent chance, I'm the only customer of the night and I can go for a more GFE.

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A lot of these girls wash up after seeing their customer out. A few will wash right there and then, but I've not known any of them to have unhygienic conditions down below.
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@Mister: I asked the price after the fact and she quotes 700. I have seen other reports quoting 500, but the service was good and I was in no mod to negotiate. But yeah good practice to fix price upfront

Regarding the cleanup part, sure hope she did cleanup after I left, but I thought it unlikely after she wore all her clothes back.

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Reply #8 p0ison's post

$700 for what you got I think is a fair price. Others can scream at me for pushing up or down the market. Assuming a 90min session that's a $300 tip. Assume a 60min session $400 tip.

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Tarasse   20-6-2017 21:27  Acceptance  +3   Agreed. Prices are going up anyways. That's inflation. Even taxi went up this year!
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Reply #5 Mister's post

Can I ask you why you always ask how the price was agreed?
Are you doing a survey? Or preparing some best practices for sauna girls?

How do you approach the matter?

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p0ison   20-6-2017 22:42  Acceptance  +2   the question I wanted to ask!
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Reply #10 Tarasse's post

Fair question. I've seen M+HE prices rise and rise since the good old days (say five years ago) when you could get a hot and heavy session with an uninhibited Vietnamese girl at a TST spa for $250 + $100 tip. One of my faves was sitting legs wide apart on the couch in the reception area in see-through pantyhose when I last visited. When I was told the standard tip had doubled to $200, I walked out. Halong Bay closed soon after, but tip inflation at rival spas only got worse.

The girls at Moonbeam Village in Hankow, now also closed, and other TST spas used to doff their tops as a matter of course and offered ready access to their b00bs for the standard tip. Now many won't even flash their nipples for less than $300.

How did we come to this pretty pass? It is only natural that the girls will charge what the market will bear. So is the demand so great for extras beyond vanilla M+HE that punters will pay increasingly big bucks for them? When Kama introduced its innovative tips-included deal for $700, it was considered a premium tariff. Now, many think nothing of spending the same or more in run-of-the-mill spas.

That's why I'm curious about the dynamics of the transaction when it's just you and the girl in the room. Some girls declare clearly what each upgrade costs as you come to it. More often than not, however, nothing will be mentioned until it comes time to pay, or some will remind you "give me a tip" while they're performing the service. I am generally respectful of the girls and enjoy achieving a modicum of chemistry with them. But I tip conservatively. Most times the tip is accepted without comment. Once, the girl made it abundantly clear that I had undertipped her after she gave me an unexpected partial massage with her b00bs. Often, the girl will say "It's up to you. Give whatever you like", and I do.

That said, if DATY, a BBBJ or fully nude body-to-body massage is indulged in, a supernormal tip is clearly warranted. And of course, punters are free to do what they like with their money. In aggregate, it does have an impact on the market, though. Just as we only encourage B&S by the HG agents if we acquiesce in that practice, we only encourage greedy spa girls if we routinely tip more than the going rate. Hawaii and some other WC spas have lowered the fees the house charges for a session, so $600, say, for 60 minutes already represents a $350 tip for the girl.

Although these "spas" are a distinct segment of the p4p market in HK, they don't exist in a vacuum. I recently had a great punt with a fair-skinned beauty in Hop Yee and was reminded that for less than $500 you can enjoy a mutual shower, full fingering and a romp in the nude for 30 minutes, sans massage. Not exactly the same thing, sure, although it is uncommon to get the full 60 minutes you pay for at a "spa", but in some walkups (even Coronet Court) the girl has happily gone overtime.

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cknc31   28-6-2017 09:41  Karma  +3   well put
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Reply #11 Mister's post

Spa has being so expensive that i sometimes question myself if its worth it. I started when HBS was the place to go. standard tips was enough most things and a 300 tip could pretty much get me anywhere. By now, my 90 min sessions are usually $800+. Money aside, while there are exceptions, good massages come with older and ugly girls and pretty girls don't know how to massage. Which brings me to my dilemma, there are 18yr old hotel chicks going for 700 ish and they allow pretty much everything. I should really start looking for a good veggie place

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hoo8myryce   25-6-2017 07:27  Karma  +3   I've tried one spa before and don't see how the price to satisfaction is worth it. Just an overall HJ with a younger l ...
Mister   21-6-2017 13:24  Karma  +1   Yes, I'm tempted to give the budget HGs another whirl given the way spa prices are going. 800+ is ludicrous
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Reply #12 david_r1's post

starting 3 yrs ago I kept on saying the cost of these walk up (foot) massage places are not worth what they try to charge
and its been going up and up and up since ... the establishments AND the girls got greedy

I keep on saying going to the big full facility saunas are much better value and if you know how to play the sauna game then the experience is a way better

these foot massage places used to be great for a quickie plus a bit added time for the girl and client to get to know one another ... at a lower cost then the full facility saunas but not for the last few years !
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Reply #13 twiceAweek's post

Twice it's funny you should say that. For starters I agree with you. Full service big sauna was and often is still the way to go. I remember the days when it used to City Sauna and Temple Street Sauna. The first days of big establishment saunas were days when they use to be called airport runways i.e. They would only give HJ's. That was my first pay to play when I lived here as a school boy. When I got back all these places in Jordan and some in North point progressed to Full Sex. It was expensive though then. $1,400 for full sex was my recollection. Then operation firefly killed off the FS sauna scene for a while. When they returned SARS hit and prices plummeted to $800 or less. I remember Regency Spa in Yau Ma Tei. I don't think prices have recovered since.

The beauty of the walk up at its onset was the price (as you've said $300-400) for a handjob. Nowadays prices have gone up. That said I still do retain the option of whether I want to go FS, or whether I want to limit it to a HJ with a grab at her tits. Ultimately call me a whimp or not but the joy of walk up sauna is the actually often the comfort of just talking and spending time with the girl with no obligations for a fuck and run. My pattern has been to go to the same establishment and mark the same girl. With that comes a more personal relationship where you talk about things and also the benefit of being a regular and value added services. Like I've said in my reports, some girls have given added benefits for no additional charges. Some would try to skin you and those you just apply common sense and don't see again.

End of day it's punter beware and punter only punt to your tolerance levels.

Sorry for the rant and please don't mistaken the rant as a going against what you've said as actually agree with you. In a long winded way I just want to say punters should punt as they like and value is in the eye of the beholder.
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Reply #14 dryice's post

I know you're talking about big FS / HJ saunas where even now their prices are equal or less then some of these walk up joints, and I totally agree with what you said ...

but I'm talking about full facility, top VEGGIE saunas where I ALWAYS get a decent to very good massage and extras ...
difference is the girls don't remove clothes (or they do, depending which sauna you go to) and don't bathe with you, for the same price as these walk up joints , only thing is we, as customers, need to play the sauna game first until we find the right girls of our choice

these walk up joints are pricing themselves out of the market by cheating new clueless customers way more then the going rate which itself has become as high as proper sauna establishments
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Reply #1 p0ison's post

Great thread, Bros!
I was first introduced to this excellent Sex141 site by Cat who worked in the spa in the basement
of what used too be called the Miramar Hotel, now the Mira.

After a couple of visits I got FS  after I mentioned  casually that I always have a condom in my
wallet.
She turned me on to Sex141 when she went freelance in a tiny but tidy flat in Kimberley Road.

What finally drove her to shabbier premises in Sheung Wan was Hong Kong's ever-present
problem of greedy landlords and skyrocketing rents.

This is at least a contributory factor for the rising costs.

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Reply #16 Siklong69's post

Agreed. It might be a bit far fetched to blame it all on stupid punters and greedy girls.
The cost of life today has skyrocketed vs. 3 or 5 years ago.
Rents are just a joke. When luxury brands cannot afford to pay, I can only imagine what a small sauna is going through.
Inflation can reach double digits. It's almost impossible to find a decent place to eat for $60 on the island.
Doesn't mean that some are not trying to pull prices up, but it's definitely a complex mix of circumstances.
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I am fairly new to the scene, still looking at the world with wide eyed wonder. So my world view may be a little too simple, but to me I would like to check out all the different avenues - HG, 141, saunas, FLs and then settle down the mix of my liking, price being one determinant of how much I like the scene. If someone is willing to pay more than you, maybe the service is worth more than you are willing to pay. You vote with your feet and hope things will sort itself out.
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Reply #15 twiceAweek's post

Ok you got me there twice! There's a reason you're Da Sex God!

When you talking veggie not the veggies on the 141 right? But the real veggies as in big establishment veggies? Here's my ten cents joke of the month. This happened when I first worked in HK many years ago in a merchant banking firm. My colleague and I were working till about 11pm running models and calculations when I called time out and said I need a rub a dub dub. He agreed and said let's go for a massage.

In my mind I was thinking like tin tin sauna or something like that. You know pure veggie massage where an old lady can break your bones. He says let's go to my regular place in Chinese it was sun ying gung (which I think was sunny paradise). Now I've never been and I think it was an all male sauna (there sister shop is sun ying Kok) which has a male and female section. We all in and the guy at the door was like "hey Mr A! Long time! Today you bring a friend - wink wink".

In we go, locker room, shower, bath robe, sit in lobby get a yakult on ice and eat a ham and egg sandwich...The manager comes by and small talk. My friend introduces me and says he's new so fix him up with a good masseuse and I'll have the regilr.

Time goes by and we're led to seperate rooms. I thought it was strange as at a veggie place. I need to split rooms, I mean even in a HJ place I've been in the same room. As I step in my room I noticed I had a male masseuse. It struck me as strange but I thought nothing more. I mean hey maybe this guy is a "good masseuse" and would loosen my back...

Time goes on and his skills did loosen my back. Now bear in mind in these places when you get in a robe you're also given real baggy shorts to wear. These never can off as I didn't expect any action. Now what scared the shit out of me or I should pushed the shit back in me was when he had oil massaged my back, his hands went lower and soon enough were on my ass and at which point he tried to finger me up my rectum!!!!! I immediately reacted by jerking into a standing position and turning around and screaming diu!  He looked at me and just said aren't you....I was like no I'm not gay nor into that...to which he said, but you came with mr A and he said he want d the usual....it was only them that I realised that this place also offered a male to male service with extras and that such a place existed.

Needless to say I did suggest to my friend afterwards what happened and that I'm really not into that stuff. To which he looked shocked as in they gave you that????? I just told him to give you a regular good masseuse which the establishment misunderstood.

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Siklong69   28-6-2017 02:35  Karma  +6   Maybe you got punked?
3QOxqK2Liy0t   24-6-2017 02:15  Acceptance  +1   very funny thankx you
twiceAweek   22-6-2017 01:48  Karma  +1   should go with the flow … lol
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Reply #19 dryice's post

how long ago was this ?
in all my years here I have never seen a male masseuse in any large sauna except for the foot guys working in the lounge

once upon a time there was this massage place with blind male masseuse at but I left after seeing the towel they gave me in the locker area

now for those who are talking about the cost of renting a place … I'm not talking about that at all !
I'm talking about how much the girl asks for on top of the massage place' s cost … that is the real problem
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