Subject: Police raids HK/MACAU/CHINA
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Post at 25-6-2017 07:17  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #14 raradidi's post

Really??? That is interesting to know. Always thought that as long as it is legal in the country there's no harm to it as long as you're not breaking any rules. Ie 3P in HK. Never thought that what the law from my nationality country matter.
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Reply #5 haomaru's post

NOTHING IS SAFE HERE IN CHINA.
If you think staying in a 4 star hotel room is safe then good luck.
Here are the crack downs.
If you are not sure which hotel to go to make sure only go to the ones that you know and been before. If you are new to this then please ask the person that reserved your ktv room for you to see what options you have.
Here are the problems:
4 star hotel rooms are filled with spy. They know you are a visiter and went to a hotel room with a girl. They know if you get caught you will put up the money to get out asap. Or the mainland people that brought you there will help you put up the money to get out asap.
4 star hotel rooms people fill safe there. But you didn't know that all front desk works get commission when they call the LE on you. \
I usually book hotels that i know and been there before. If you are new to the area then ask the KTV person. But make sure the KTV is a legit person. Not the ones that will also be part of the raid to get money.
If you are new to the hotel. check out the hotel before you bring the girl back. See if there is a parking garage.
If there is one then here is the rule. When you check in please make sure to get 2 keys.
When you go back to the hotel. Have the taxi driver drop you off at the lobby and you take your key to get back up to the room.
The second key give it to the girl and have the driver drop her off that the garage elevator. Then the girl will be able to use that key to get back up to the room.
They will not ask any questions when people goes up from the garage. they're not going to stop the elevator to ask what room shes in and her name. Since she has a room key already that already states she stays in the hotel and is a hotel guess.
This is by far the safest way i know.
And if you dont know any hotels in the area. Get a mid range hotel. And DONT Be a drunk DICK when you go back to the hotel room or at the lobby. And do not be flashy with your items like iphone and watch and stuff like that.

ALways know your girls name and get her phone number or wechat before you go back to the hotel room. So if anything even if the LE raids the room. You will have some evidence that you knew her before and not just a WG.
Thats all i can say and from my experience. I did have 2 friends that was caught before.
1 paid 30,000rmb to get back out, he didn't want to deal with it. Paid on the spot at the LE station.
and then other paid 20,000 rmb to get back out but was also locked in for 2 days. after the 2 days the LE said he can go back out to get money. so they held his HK ID CARD. Which was pretty stupid cause for HK people to get back to HK its very easy. All they have to say is they lost their ID care. But he was too chicken shit and came back out and paid them to get his id card back. If i was him i wouldn't have paid shit and just left to go back to hk. and report the card lost or stolen.

There is a new video on wechat show how many fake LE there are in china. there was a bunch that was caught last week in some other small city in china. All Fake LE acting like a bunch of real LE trying to scam money.
So becareful out there. Dont punt and get caught. Only go to places that is safe and well talked about.
When you chose rooms for massages or hotel rooms always pick the ones that is far from the elevator. Dont choose the ones that are the closes to stairs or elevators. Those are the first ones to get raided lolz

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Post at 26-1-2018 20:24  Profile P.M. 
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If  it is illegal in your country, you might face charges upon return. The police might still forward your passport info etc. to the embassy despite the fact you  have not broken any local laws. .
In addition, the intelligence agencies of such countries are performing surveillance on related places to collect evidence of their people going there. The most extreme example is Korea;
the US is also known for such. This is why many  places in the world such as Japan and Europe do not accept foreigners. Yes,extraterritorial prosecution.
Sweden is going to start this soon as well.But unlike Korea and US which have unbelievably dense and extensive networks overseas to watch their people, S
weden does not have the sufficient and appropriate means to do so.
As for hotels, clerks are known to act as informants for intelligence agencies due to their pay being very low. Hotel has your passport no and CCTV. If a girl goes into your room, there is
evidence. A similar thing was shown  in 007:Another day ,although many details in that movie were incorrect, such as yacht club at northern part of HK. (in fact located at the opposite side)
The only workaround  in such case is to get a new nationality which would allow it.

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Reply #21 hoo8myryce's post

It is called extraterritorial prosecution.Also, keep in mind that 1)some countries monitor their expats through a dense network of  intelligence agency cells disguised as churches or trading companies(especially Korea) and 2)in British law jurisdictions, material evidence  is not required for a guilty verdict. Intelligence agencies always break laws of other countries when doing their business.In Japan, it is illegal but no punishment specified in the law for WG or client , only for the one owning the business. Many Korean guys who went
to Tobita Sinchi or FKK went to jail after they returned from travel.

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